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WeekTest EArimidexClomidNolvadexD-bol
1250 x 2 mon & Thursas needed?????
2250 x 2 as needed?????
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16 50 mg daily 20 mg daily
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Test E - Arix - Clomid - Nolvadex Want to place my order so let me know if im missing anything for my 1st cycle ever.. If its the wrong way to go please advise.. I think this is the safest for first cycle. Also don't know if adding dbol will help or not you guys give me the insight. I am trying to bulk up without loosing my current cut. 51 yrs 6.2 221 LBS 14% BF
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moonie
1 day 21 hours ago
moonie 1 day 21 hours ago
Well its in... got my test and my Ari. Diet is pretty much on point.. (no its not perfect I like a snack every now and then) but for the most part i'm good... Think ill start pinning on Sunday and the Ari. on Tuesday... so lets see how my body reacts at 50 to test...
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SemperFi
1 day 13 hours ago
SemperFi 1 day 13 hours ago (In reply to moonie)
What is your current diet, macro breakdown and TDEE? Those three answers are much more important than the PED plan and dosing. Make this a great experience brother and stay safe.
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moonie
3 weeks 19 hours ago
moonie 3 weeks 19 hours ago
Been doing a bit more research.. Does it matter much weather its Test E or Test C on 1st cycle. According to what I have read they seem to be identical except for the life span.. I have read forums where 1st cycle some are doing C instead of E.. being that you are all much experienced where do you guys stand on this. what are the pros and cons. Is there much of a difference in 1st cycle choice.
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3 weeks 16 hours ago
SemperFi 3 weeks 16 hours ago (In reply to moonie)
Differences are so negligible it does not matter.
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Big Nasty
3 weeks 2 days ago
Big Nasty 3 weeks 2 days ago
You are getting great advise and mentoring here Moonie. If you follow the advise I guarantee you will experience great success. Good luck and hard training and clean eating.
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Big Nasty
3 weeks 2 days ago
Big Nasty 3 weeks 2 days ago
You are getting great advise and mentoring here Moonie. If you follow the advise I guarantee you will experience great success. Good luck and hard training and clean eating.
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darkvorg
3 weeks 4 days ago
darkvorg 3 weeks 4 days ago
In my humble opinion try the first cycle without Dbol. Only reasoning is because you should know how your body reacts solely with the increase in testosterone without any interference with other compounds. I had ran two cycles before this third one solely with Test and seeing what esters agreed with my body best. I am young, yes, but trust in that an increase in testosterone alone will aid you in either a cut OR bulk. It's not solely about the compound (though some compounds are better at cut or bulk) but how you 1. Train and 2. EAT! Your diet is the number 1 greatest determining factor with either your cut or bulk. Just my 2 cents
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3 weeks 14 hours ago
Dolf 3 weeks 14 hours ago (In reply to darkvorg)
+3 dv...excellent advice from personal experiences! Paying it forward is what it's all about brotha!
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4 weeks 8 hours ago
Dolf 4 weeks 8 hours ago
Everything is perfect except the start of your pct. With test e pct starts 2 weeks after your last pin.
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blastthru23
4 weeks 10 hours ago
blastthru23 4 weeks 10 hours ago
There really is nothing I can add to what SF and MisterA have already pointed out. You can make this one to remember like your "first time". Doing it with care and deliberation you'll be absolutely amazed at the results. Follow the advice below, it takes effort but such effort will not be wasted. Blood work, diet plan. Let's get it rolling.
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moonie
4 weeks 16 hours ago
moonie 4 weeks 16 hours ago
Semper fi... As I have come to realize with this site I'm glad I signed up... your advise is genuine and very much appreciated.. Thank you!!!!
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SemperFi
4 weeks 16 hours ago
SemperFi 4 weeks 16 hours ago
If you can get your TDEE, caloric intake and macro breakdown dialed in you are going to be pleasantly surprised what you will achieve on a Test only cycle. You will feel better, able to train harder, recover faster and have a stronger self awareness. If you have pharma grade adex I recommend a starting dose of .5mg every third day (E3D). I would NOT wait for the signs of gyno to begin an AI. It is guaranteed that you will elevate your estrogen when adding exogenous testosterone. To what extent and your personal sensitivity to the side effects is what is in question. Elevated estrogen does not always make it face known as gyno.
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moonie
4 weeks 19 hours ago
moonie 4 weeks 19 hours ago
One more thing... i noticed some cycles wait 2 weeks for post is that the normal or immediately after the 12 weeks of test...
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Mister A
4 weeks 9 hours ago
Mister A 4 weeks 9 hours ago (In reply to moonie)
You need to do more research on the ester lengths. You want to wait before the Test (mostly) clears your system before starting PCT. Test Propionate and Test Enanthate will have two very different PCT start times. I'm going to spoon feed you the answer to this one, but request that you try to understand ester half lives before beginning. For your first cycle of Test E, start PCT 14 days after your last pin. In the future you may adjust that slightly, but that's the recommended starting point.
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moonie
4 weeks 20 hours ago
moonie 4 weeks 20 hours ago
I appreciate the comments and was not very sure about the dbol but will for sure leave it out.. Test is the way ill go... As far as the Arimidex goes I just begin taking that is I show signs of gyno once I get my body down to 12% BF.. I will work on my diet prior to beginning the cycle to determine that I am doing it right...
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Bulkdaddy
4 weeks 1 day ago
Bulkdaddy 4 weeks 1 day ago
First cycle buddy leave out the Dbol so you know how your body responds to test only. Maybe next cycle you can add in dbol if everything goes well.
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moonie
4 weeks 1 day ago
moonie 4 weeks 1 day ago
Did blood work 2 weeks ago at PCP and asked her to check my test level.. She called back few days later and stated all blood work was superb.. Even cholesterol / Tri's were normal..(always had high Tri's) Of course I didn't tell her that I was thinking of pinning myself. I guess I need to go elsewhere beside my PCP to get the exact info needed...
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Mister A 4 weeks 10 hours ago (In reply to moonie)
Ask for a copy of your blood work results. That's all. It's great that she thinks it's superb, but you might want a more exact number than that considering that your natural test will never be as high as it is the day before your first pin. So if you're at like 500 now which she might consider fine because it's within range, you might not like how you feel at 425 (I know I didn't).
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Mister A
4 weeks 1 day ago
Mister A 4 weeks 1 day ago
Any cycle is going to be safer without an oral steroid in it. So definitely not the safest first cycle possible. At MG we recommend the first cycle to be Test only. Your number one goal for a first cycle should be to learn how your body handles exogenous testosterone. Secondarily, your goals can be physique or strength based. But DBol aromatizes heavily and if you're prone to estrogen sides, you put yourself at a high risk of getting gyno right out of the gate. This is an experiment. Adding too many variables will result in inconclusive findings. Whether you increase your bodyfat or not will depend solely on your diet. At 14% BF how about we treat this as a recomp with your goal to be 225 at 12% BF when it's done. You'll gain muscle, lose fat and look significantly larger of you can get to that point. And you won't have to over eat or starve yourself. Determine your TDEE and then we can figure out your macros to dial it in against your TDEE and make this as successful as possible. 225 @ 12% is a much better look than 240 @ 16% with a bunch of retained water which is guarantee is what you'll get if you try to bulk and add DBol. It'll be just in time for summer. Now, most importantly: have you had pre-cycle bloodwork done to determine your current hormone levels? This will be crucial moving forward, especially at your age where most men are TRT candidates.

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