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3600mg50mg500iu.5mg E3d
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9750mg50mg500iu.5mg E3d
10750mg50mg500iu.5mg E3d
11600mg50mg500iu.5mg E3d
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So my last cycle was test,Deca,Dbol. I'm dropping the Deca. I didn't have any issues, just wanna do something else. I'm gonna run test E again with the Dbol. I wanna throw in some Var at the end. Never used it before. My goal is to add size but wouldn't mind if at the end of the cycle I leaned up a bit. Hence the Var. I'd like to add something along with the Test and am open to suggestions. I also want to run Hcg this time as my boys shrunk like crazy last time haha. I will run throughout the cycle.
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someguy_78 3 months 3 days ago
Ok, cycle updated. First pin tonight. Seems like last cycle was forever ago. Dropped the Var and added Proviron. Wanna see how I react to it. Seems a lot of people love it and won't run without it. I have everything on hand including liver and organ defender. I've already upped my water consumption considerably and been eating clean for weeks preparing for cycle. Should be a good one!
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calmb4dastorm 3 months 3 days ago (In reply to someguy_78)
Awesome! Enjoy your cycle!
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someguy_78 3 months 3 days ago (In reply to calmb4dastorm)
Thanks Calm!
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Dolf 3 months 3 days ago (In reply to someguy_78)
You'll love the proviron. I personally run itvwith nearly every cycle. Just keep an eye on your bp.
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4 months 1 week ago
someguy_78 4 months 1 week ago
Ok, so I'm gonna ditch the Var. What are some opinions on running Proviron with this cycle? I've been reading a little about it and it has no hepatotoxicity so my liver would be no more stressed.
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someguy_78 4 months 5 days ago (In reply to someguy_78)
Anyone?
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SemperFi 4 months 5 days ago (In reply to someguy_78)
I got my arms crossed on this one brother until I see your diet plan outlined.
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someguy_78 4 months 5 days ago (In reply to SemperFi)
Haha ok ok. I know diet is most important. I also just read about hydration. Gonna up my water big time. Just wanna get everything in place and was wondering people's opinions and benefits they see from Proviron.
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SemperFi 4 months 1 week ago
Have you formulated a diet plan that is in alignment with your goals yet?
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someguy_78 4 months 1 week ago (In reply to SemperFi)
I'm not good at calculating macros and all that. I'll just eat clean like last cycle. Lots of protein, rice, veg, and water. One cheat day a week so I can have a couple beers and pizza haha.
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SemperFi 4 months 1 week ago (In reply to someguy_78)
Not bashing but thats disappointing because that will have a negative impact on your results. Nutrient timing is critical for gains and longterm results. If you need help with a macro counting app or a diet outline do not hesitate to reach out.
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someguy_78 4 months 1 week ago (In reply to SemperFi)
I'm always open to some help/suggestions. I find dieting the hardest part.
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blastthru23 4 months 1 week ago (In reply to someguy_78)
Dig around in the nutrition section, it's all there. With a little arithmetic and knowledge of percentages, in an afternoon on the weekend, you'll have it all set to go. I'd stay away from beer and pizza, they stress the liver and kidneys. We all know 2 beers becomes a six pack and some shots. Oops, there goes Mondays workout! Prior proper planning prevents piss poor performance ;)
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SemperFi 4 months 1 week ago (In reply to someguy_78)
As said many times on MG - The correct foods are the most anabolic substance we can put in our body.
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siegmund 4 months 1 week ago
Think it looks ok., im not a fan of 2 orals in 1.cycle , but its your liver. And dolf already touched base on the ai. So good luck
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someguy_78 4 months 1 week ago (In reply to siegmund)
What if I ditch the Var and add Masteron?
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SemperFi 4 months 1 week ago (In reply to someguy_78)
Mast will assist in the cutting phase but your diet is going to dictate how much benefit you receive from it. Mast will not be seen as very effective unless you are already really lean. Same can be said for Var. You can do this brother but you need to put more effort into your diet and simply reap the benefits of the AAS supplementation.
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someguy_78 4 months 1 week ago (In reply to SemperFi)
I've been reading some of your threads in the "diet" section. Trying to get a grasp on it. I'm not lean now so the mast would be a waste? Just trying to get full potential out of the cycle since I can only do 2 cycles a year. I want to add quality mass and I thought I could lean up a bit. I don't know what my bf% is. I would appreciate any help with a diet/nutrition plan.
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SemperFi 4 months 1 week ago (In reply to someguy_78)
Reality - You can't go to where you want to go unless you know where you are leaving from. Nothing will maximize your results unless you take control of the things that you can control. IMO you are placing too much responsibility on the compounds and not enough on yourself and your results will be a reflection of that. You have two choices- #1. If you just want to be bigger and possibly lean out than keep doing what your doing and hope for the best or #2. If you want the "full potential" from this cycle then it is time to man up. I personally believe you have it in you to choose #2.
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Dolf 4 months 1 week ago
Diet will primarily dictate bulking or cutting, so get a good plan in place. I notice there's not an ai mentioned. Whst do you have onhand for an ai.
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someguy_78 4 months 1 week ago (In reply to Dolf)
Oops forgot to log that. I'll use Arimadex like last time E3d.
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Dolf 4 months 1 week ago (In reply to someguy_78)
Good deal brotha! If you start running your test at 750mg and especially at 1000mg per week or more aro is something you need to look into for an ai. Good luck with your cycle!
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SemperFi 4 months 1 week ago (In reply to someguy_78)
Good job for being on top of it.
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SemperFi 4 months 1 week ago
I am not a fan of seeing two orals ran on the same cycle which is hypocritical of me because I just did it on my last 20 week cycle. I love both DBol and Var. DBol for the psychological effects and Var for the true keepable quality gains. I do not use dbol at all for the results that it provides physically. Remember the stress and hepatotoxicity that orals will be adding to this cycle if ran as posted. It is not necessary to add another compound with test per se. If you are not E2 sensitive simply consider bumping your dose to 750mg. If you are E2 sensitive then you will want to consider a steroid profile that has a low aromatizing effect but will work synergistically with Test. That is why Deca is a proven winner. Don't overly rely on the compounds to provide results. Place more importance on your mindset, diet and training. Good luck brother and keep us posted.

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