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Hello everyone this is my first post i hope you can help. Recently retired from baseball, and my wife want to try a first cycle (yes i missed the steroid boat.) Im looking to cycle with -Euro Chem mega test 450 Testosterone Enanthate 250mg/ml Testosterone Undecanoate 150mg/ml Testosterone Acetate 50mg/ml -Euro Chem tren e 200 -Euro Chem winstrol 50mg tabs been reading a lot about pct and on cycle AI but still a little foggy. Ill most likely use clomid and novadex unless there is a game changer, but a friend of mine has done his pct with T-Bomb in the past (sound shady.) I've been looking into many products like Liquidex AI, Letrozone, and liquidex from rui-products. I hope this is enough and not to much can you please help me. Any thought on the wife taking winstrol?
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Winny/Tren first cycle!! Don't do it fella! Stick with just Test and maybe finish off with Var, get some Ai on hand just in case but at 450mg (same as my first cycle) you should be ok but get some Provi an start at 50mg ED at week 6, worked great for me. Oh and research PCT but Clomid and Nolv are usual best options. Good luck!
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calmb4dastorm 2 years 5 months ago
Omg! Test is your base period point blank. Tren is for the experienced cycler, not first timers. Just the fellas WHEN they tell you that you have TOO much going on with this. You need only run test, see how your body responds, see your results. Understand that diet is KEY to achieving desired results. You can add all the supps you want, but if your diet sucks, you've wasted time money. As far as wife doing Winny, has she cycled before? Var is good for helping lean out and she'd body fat. Think I'd Winny as a "finisher' to hard you up. Plus it dries out the joints so its something o consider. I've used it before. I'm currently cutting MYSELF and running var. Do a little more research Caly, there's more to this game than just pinning random shit because you bought it. Every body responds differently to compounds. Find out what works for you, one compound at a time brother and don't try to randomly juice your girl, the game is harder on our bodies!!!!
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caly713 2 years 5 months ago (In reply to calmb4dastorm)
Thank you for your response i appreciate it. I did a lot of research and still am chichis why I'm asking questions. No its not a game so I'm trying to cover every base before i buy and pin myself. As far as my girl she is ex athlete also and we thought of small dose (5mg) of win but it seems to be a bad idea. Thank you for you help.
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Dolf 2 years 5 months ago (In reply to caly713)
You're doing the right thing by asking questions. We just need to simplify it down a little bit. Test e or c at 500mg per week, an ai, and your pct is all you'll need. You will make insane gains off that your first cycle. Just go to the forum and click on the new to steroids section. Lots of great newbie info in there.
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calmb4dastorm 2 years 5 months ago (In reply to caly713)
For your girl, Winny may treat her right, not for me due to osteoarthritis. But var will take her far. It's oral. Women tend to run var primo Winny. I myself not like other women, I see for myself the results a compound will give me, I lve been cycling injectables for over a year. I found what works for me and dialed it in with the help of the guys here! Don't be discouraged, just small steps to get you guys feet wet.
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Dolf 2 years 5 months ago (In reply to calmb4dastorm)
Good advice calm. Var is a great for a female first cycle because it's pretty mild. There are some side affects your girl needs to read up on so she'll know the warning signs.
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Scandal 2 years 5 months ago (In reply to caly713)
Mate Winny not for everyone, I started on 40mg ED and after a week I couldn't even touch my elbows they were that painful! I believe taking NPP helps with joint pain but just another compound that you don't need yet.
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http://musclegurus.com/forum/anabolic-steroids/new-to-steroids-start-here/first-cycle-checklist-and-shopping-list You have way too much going on here for a first cycle. Check out the link I provided.
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caly713 2 years 5 months ago (In reply to Dolf)
Thank you ill be sure to look at that before preceding.
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caly713 2 years 5 months ago (In reply to Dolf)
Thank you ill be sure to look at that before preceding.
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I do have to advice on HCG as well.. run it the whole cycle with test E or test C only as recommend by siegmund. It will do wonders for recovery. HCG is easy to use. simple injection in the belly fat with an insulin syringe.
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caly713 2 years 5 months ago (In reply to ramdisck)
Yes i think you are correct, it would be beneficial to add hcg. its looking like aromasin, hcg, clomid, and nolvadex are next on the list. A friend suggested reliablerxpharmacy.com for my AI's and pct gear. thank you also for you advice.
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siegmund 2 years 5 months ago
First , thanks for posting , this is your first cycle ,this is your learning experience .. I don't see a ,Ai,mentioned ,and I MUST HIGHLY SUGGEST , test only my friend ,you need to figure your body out... Tren e ,horrible idea ,I recommend no tren at all ,and with teen e you get sides ,your up the river ,because its going to take weeks to get out of your system ... I suggest test e or c ,250mg 2x week for 12 weeks ...having adex if needed for e2 .. To many compounds for a first cycle ,you will never know ,what's giving you sides !!! And no pct should consist of nova and clom..please take this advise friend way way to much going on here ...
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caly713 2 years 5 months ago (In reply to siegmund)
yes AI is part of the reason i posted. I read and figured id take .5mg of aromasin EOD, and yes ill probably drop the tree. I'm Getting nova and clom also. thank you also. Not sure about adex....
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siegmund 2 years 5 months ago (In reply to caly713)
That's why were here ,your family now ,we may not always tell each other what they want to hear ...but we all cade and Want to see a brother and sister ,succeed. Safely
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Those are a lot of compounds brother. If it is indeed your first cycle you will do just great with say Test only. the Euro Test has 3 esthers in it i believe. that would be afine cycle. up the dose to around 600/wk skip the tren and hit the winny at the end. See how the body takes the test before hitting the Tren. Most people will say if you have a ? about PCT then you aren't ready for a first cycle. F them. I usually do clomid and Nolvadex, but the clomid give me some funky shit with my eyes in the dark with light and shadows so I only use it two weeks and Nolva the rest. You need a serm. T-bomb is not a serm. stick with Nolvadex and your good two weeks after last pin with test (euro test has test E) that is a long ester From what I've read, low dose of winny is good for women. But i have also read that women resond really will to low dose of test. Makes them crazy horny too. I wish my wife would take a little ;) Good luck with your cycle no matter what you decide on. I'm just offering advice. not telling you what to do. I usually read ten post of people telling me not to do what i want until i find ONE that says its ok and i do it anyway! -*edit I just saw it was a cutting cycle. You'll be putting on mad mass with the cycle you have laid out. low dose of test about 500/week is good for strength gains without too much mass. i did a TON of cardio on 500/week and gained about 10 pounds for 16 weeks. I lost 7 during PCT so most was probably water. I was cut up when i finished though. fat down and muscle up.
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caly713 2 years 5 months ago (In reply to ramdisck)
yes you are correct about the 3 esters with the Mega Test. i fell you about F them but thats just people happy they know more than someone. I'm not ashamed to ask questions, but i am scared to make a mistake. i figured id no the climid and nolvadex before bed to limit possible sides. Most likely start the pct 21 day post last pin. No test for the wife but possible LOW dose of win of a good sarm if we don't do the win. Im more interested in shredding up and i hope finishing up with win will help. with this test mix i feel that 1ml (450mg) might be sufficient but i could be wrong. i have been before. thank you for you input

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