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WeekTest BlendEQTren AceDBolStanoloneAnadrolAromasinCaber
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DayProteinsCarbsFatsCalories
High Carb Day440g500g60g4300
Medium Carb Day440g400g60g3900
Low Carb Day440g300g60g3500
DayBodyPartsTrained
Day 1QuadsCalves
Day 2Rear DeltsTrapsUpper Back
Day 3ChestAbs
Day 4Rest
Day 5HamsGlutesLower-Mid Back
Day 6Side DeltsFront DeltsUpper Chest
Day 7ForearmsBicepsTriceps
Day 8Rest
Description, stats, concerns and expectations: 
Start Date: January 12th 2017. This is Phase 1 of a multi phase growth program lasting until the end of the year. The overall goal is a bodyweight of 275 pounds with a body fat percentage no greater than 15%. The Phase 1 goal specifically is a bodyweight of 255 with a bodyfat percentage no greater than 14%. There will be rotating nutritional phases within each phase to ensure fat gain is kept to a minimum and lean muscle gain never plateaus. The diet is made up of clean foods with one cheat meal a week during the initial phase. Protein sources include chicken breast, eggs, lean ground beef, steak and hydrolyzed whey isolate. Carb sources include white rice, yams, oatmeal, various green vegetables and select fruits. 2 gallons of water a day minimum every day. Non training days are spent creating an alkaline environment and detoxifying the body.
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Mister A 5 days 14 hours ago
Day 99 (4/20): Today begins the 3rd week of the Keto phase. I am 228.6 as of this morning. I've lost 18 pounds in 32 days over the last 2 diet phases. Fat loss from Keto has been remarkable to say the least. Muscle is still being preserved. Strength is beginning to come back as my body gets used to zero carbs. Just about where I was when I was eating 500g of carbs a day. Appearance is significantly leaner. I'm probably around 13% at this point. Abdominals are visible throughout the day. Although being totally flat, my muscles are more defined than ever. I look lean, but have maintained my size. Very little vascularity without carbs, but I expect my veins to explode once I put the carbs back in. I started 50mg of Proviron last week to help with estrogen control. Lowered my Aro dose to 6.25mg once a week. Back acne is almost completely gone. No other side effects to speak of. I'm using Clenbuterol for the last 2 weeks of the Keto phase to get as much fat off as possible before final phase of the cycle. Dosing is 40mcg for 5 days, 60mcg for 4 days, 80 mcg for 3 days, 100mcg for 2 days. The Clen will hopefully get me down under 13% and effectively rev my metabolism through the first week of re-implementing carbs until my metabolism is restored by the diet itself. The effects of Clen will still be present throughout the final phase of the cycle which will ensure that I'm able to eat much more food than would be possible under normal circumstances. Final stage will be treated as an ultra clean bulk/recomp stage. No fat will be gained and due to all the factors and the Tren, fat loss may even occur. Body fat percentage will drop regardless due to the added muscle. Muscle fullness via glycogen and intracellular water may result in up to 15 pounds of added body weight in final 4 weeks. 2-4 pounds of lean tissue gain is the goal. I've been doing cardio since the start of Keto. 20 mins a day for the first 5 days, then 25 mins for 5 days, then 30 mins for 5 days. Now doing 35 mins a day for 5 days. Will get to 45 mins a day for the last 3 days of Keto before moving to two 25 minute sessions per day to start the final phase of the cycle. Discipline and work ethic are both at all time highs right now. Pictures at the end of this cycle will be evidence of that.
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blastthru23 2 days 14 hours ago (In reply to Mister A)
Great update MrA. The care and attention you put into your planning are second to none in my opinion, definitely inspiring! You certainly know how to take advantage of your own though process by putting into action. Keep rockin it brother!
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2 weeks 1 day ago
Mister A 2 weeks 1 day ago
Day 89 (4/10): Planning out the final phase of the cycle which will start in 22 more days after the 4 weeks of Keto is complete. Perhaps I am dreaming of carbs already, but have an idea of what I want my diet to look like when I put the Tren and Drol into action. Macros Week 1: P: 400/C: 440/F: 60. Week 2: P: 400/C: 540/F:60. Week 3: P: 400/C: 640/F: 60. Week 4: P: 400/C 740/F: 60. The calorie totals for that are 3900, 4300, 4700, 5100, respectively. The mission at that point will be to rev my metabolism far past anything it's ever experienced. I've found that the more carbs I put in to the diet, the more calories I burn through. With the nutrient partitioning of the Tren, I think it's extremely difficult to store any fat whatsoever. My guess is that eating in a 1000+ calorie surplus will only make me leaner and harder while gaining weight. Anadrol will get what it needs to do what it does best. Will probably end up throwing in Stanolone and Proviron for good measure here. Just trying to make the last 4 weeks the best 4 weeks.
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2 weeks 13 hours ago
blastthru23 2 weeks 13 hours ago (In reply to Mister A)
Great update and interesting diet plan :) I noticed that you plan to continue pinning 700 test while the tren is at 350. Just curious about the reasoning since it's usually the case that the tren dose is higher than the test dose (the typical 350 test, 525 tren), you know, the whole same receptor argument.
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Mister A 2 weeks 5 hours ago (In reply to blastthru23)
My test is at 800 now, but I will switch to Prop and move it down to 700 just for convenience. To answer your question, I really don't know about the whole receptor argument. I'm not that smart. I know that there are a lot of guys who prefer to run their test higher. I've tried it the other way and noticed that the higher my test was, the less sides I had the better I felt in the gym. So I'm thinking I might just need a higher test dose. I'm trying 700 this time. Next time I run Tren I will try my test over a gram. Also, a good time to point out that my Tren dose will adjust upwards each week by 10mg a day. The acetate ester allows you to do that. So I'm gonna try it out. 350/420/490/560. That's me pushing myself to the limit with drugs. I'll be cruising for a while after this one.
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blastthru23 2 weeks 3 hours ago (In reply to Mister A)
The body won't lie to you, just have to listen to it. It's evident that you are good at that, at from what I can tell. There's the cookie cutter approach, then you gotta make the cookie fit you, if that makes any damned sense. Keep trucking buddy, I love the way you think. Free thinking is the only way the mind expands
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2 weeks 4 days ago
Mister A 2 weeks 4 days ago
Day 86: I get more excited about this cycle everyday. Went 17 days with the last reported 3 day carb cycle limited to 4 foods. Went from 246 to 236.2 in that time. I can see some new size in areas like upper chest and quads. Other people are telling me I look massive. After a cheat meal on the 17th day, I moved into the next phase of the diet - Keto. 70% Fats and 30% Protein. Still have my TDEE right around 4100 so I've begun the Keto at 3700 with 250g of Protein and 300g of Fat every day. Training is the same as the last update. I enjoy the low volume more than I thought I would and it will be of great benefit throughout the Keto phase. I'll be in Ketosis for 28 days. The goal of this phase is to, of course, lose body fat and maintain muscle, but more importantly, it is to prime my body for the next phase.l by increasing insulin sensitivity and reducing inflammation. After 12 weeks of 400-500g of carbs a day, my insulin sensitivity is shot. I think the goal for the next 4 weeks is to end up somewhere around 222-225 which should land me in the 12-13% range. The idea is to create a state of depletion for 4 weeks. Then, with the introduction of Tren and Anadrol, put an immense amount of carbs back in and create an environment ideal for recomposition. I may add one or two compounds to the mix next month. We'll see where I'm at then. Currently day two of Keto and I don't feel great which is a good sign to me.
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blastthru23 2 weeks 3 days ago (In reply to Mister A)
I really like how you change dietary approach as you progress through your cycle. I think many just use a diet all the way through with the same macro numbers (myself included more or less). It looks as though, when calculating TDEE, you do it by the day instead of an overall generalization. This seems a damn good approach to me, and I will likely adopt this approach as well. I only wish that the online TDEE calculators were more precise as I feel the few questions that are asked aren't really sufficient, and too ambiguous in my opinion. How's the shelf coming along?
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Mister A 2 weeks 3 days ago (In reply to blastthru23)
As long as you're tracking your daily calories and your weight, you will always know your TDEE. It really only starts to change when your metabolism is cranking anyway. In either direction. And it shouldn't change that drastically during a cycle. I think manipulating your food fairly consistently is the best way to spark change in your body. If you add 20 sets to your workouts, you won't notice a change that week. If you double the dose of a compound, you won't notice a change that week. But if you add 1000g of carbs to your diet, you'll notice a change within a day or two, probably within hours. If you're looking to change variables that will yield the most obvious results, diet is the way to go. The shelf is coming along. It's an 18-24 month project. I'll keep these 2 shelf days in for a couple years and I think it'll go a long way in giving me that shoulder pad look. Also getting leaner will help exaggerate it. But it's a long term construction.
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blastthru23 2 weeks 2 days ago (In reply to Mister A)
I see what your saying about diet manipulation, it's quite similar to manipulating the approach to training . Changing it up will mitigate the body's ability to adapt to the training such that growth will continue. Same with diet is what I am understanding here. If you're consuming 400g of carbs daily., but your body could use more, then by increasing the amount of carbs to meet the body's needs one should see or at least feel the difference. I know on my re-feed day where carbs a re higher than the the other days, I certainly feel fuller, not only in the stomach, but the muscles too. Once nutrient partitioning shuttles carbs as glycigen to the muscle cells instead of fat, one will or at least should see that; the muscles look "wet" instead of striated. I think this will also help stretch the fascia to make room for actual muscle growth, meaning new cells, not just filled cells. I was either reading or I heard it in a documentary where a classic physique competitor was told that he had the frame to compete in men's bodybuilding as a heavy weight. It would take fifteen + years to get to that point, and the dude was already built really well! 15 years from the point he was at! I think it was Danny Hester. So, a long term approach and view is realistic in building both a physique for mens physique, and bodybuilding at least at the pro level. My guess is a minimum of 5 years for physique and at the very least 10 years for bodybuilding. It takes time for muscles to actually grow, not just fill up with water, nitrogen and glycogen. For this reason, I appreciate how you view development within a view over the long term. It's realistic, sober, and invaluable. And I thank you for that my friend. Love it. Keeps my approach in check, thus realistic,
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Mister A 2 weeks 1 day ago (In reply to blastthru23)
You're right about the long term approach. We have these before and after pictures here on our cycle logs, but the truth is that you're not gonna see much difference in 12 weeks. I think my 21 month transformation picture is pretty legit as far as before and afters go. You need 18 months or more to really see a difference. I know Nathan De Asha has a 20 month transformation photo that is sick (blows mine away) on his IG. The most you can really look to build is 2 pounds of muscle per month. And you're not gonna do it for 20 months in a row. Your body just stops growing after awhile or at least slows down considerably. That's why we bulk and cut. The body needs to go through phases. It does naturally in relation to the seasons. For the genetic un-elite like yours truly, I'm happy with 8-11 pounds of muscle a year of actual lean tissue. I think that's a lot and more than most guys who cycle will ever accomplish consistently. 5 years of that (2 down since I started gear) and you're a pretty big guy (assuming you were near your genetic max when you started cycling).
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blastthru23 2 weeks 1 day ago (In reply to Mister A)
Often, I notice a "slowing" of growth of either body weight and/or strength. Pretty everything has an ebb and a flow. Roll with it, make changes if necessary, and keep pressing on. It's an aspect most hate, that is, the seeming slow down, but to me it keeps it interesting. Liken it to the birds singing; it is pretty, indeed, but it's the space between the singing that brings forth the beauty of the song. Sometimes it's not the thought that counts, but the space in between may be most powerful.
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blastthru23 2 weeks 2 days ago (In reply to Mister A)
, ( deleted ditto post)
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Mister A 1 month 4 days ago
Day 70: Ten weeks down. Long ester compounds are shining. EQ is my new best friend. At 250, this the most muscle I've ever had. A year ago I was 270, but my body fat was at 21%. I'm still in the 15-16% neighborhood currently. Abs are there in the morning, but gone after a full day of eating. Definitely bigger in every muscle group. Arms are at 19" cold first thing in the morning. At only halfway through the cycle, I intend to crush this one. This week, I began a new diet program and training program. Last week, I cut out the Stanolone. I don't think it has a place in bulking unless you just enjoy all the androgenic effects it has. I'm going to save it for when my body fat is lower. My diet is much cleaner now. I'm eating 4 foods: Steak (London Broil), chicken breast, white rice and spinach. I'm using 5% Nutrition's Real Food (Rice) and Whey Isolate post workout. I drink a swig of ACV three times a day. I'm using a 3 day carb cycle and an 8 day training split. Day 1 and Day 5 are my high carb days. Days 2, 3, 6 and 7 are my medium carb days. Days 4 and 8 are my low carb days (both are rest days). Training Program is a very different from what I'm used to. I group the muscles together by proximity so I'm training areas of my body rather than focusing on individual groups. For example, Hams, Glutes and Lower-Mid back is Day 5. Side Delts, Front Delts, Upper Chest is Day 6. I've moved everything to a low volume, high intensity approach. Each session is 3 or 4 exercises. 1-3 warm up sets. Then one set to failure with 2-3 drop or rest pause sets which take it to absolute and total failure. Sessions are about a half hour long. Rest period between sets are 60-90 seconds. And I basically just try to push myself harder than I did the day before. I'm trying to destroy myself every time I step into the gym. My macros are as follows: High Day: P-440/C-500/F-60 (4300c). Medium Day: P-440/C-400/F-60 (3900c). Low Day: P-440/C-300/F-60 (3500c). My TDEE is pegged at 4100c on training days. I am doing my best to train my metabolism to absorb as much food as possible. The idea is to eat as much food as possible without storing any fat. Currently there are zero cheat meals in this diet. The goal right now is to continue building muscle while lowering my body fat by limiting its storage. My long term goals have shifted so while I'm still in a bulking phase, I'm also looking to transition before the end of the cycle to bring my body fat down. I want to compete and I believe I have the mass to do so now. Another 10 weeks on this cycle with the Tren and Drol added in will put me where I want to be entering a cutting phase. Overall, I'm very happy with my progress and look forward to spending the summer looking absolutely ridiculous.
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SemperFi 1 month 3 days ago (In reply to Mister A)
Good decision on the Stanolone. There is a lot about this cycle that I could comment on but the one thing that stands out the most to me is the SIMPLICITY of the diet. It is easily duplicatable for anyone to follow. Some may find it boring but when you are eating for what is does for you tomorrow it does not need to be complicated or mentally satisfying. +2 Griz.
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blastthru23 1 month 4 days ago (In reply to Mister A)
Great update and splendid focus MrA. The diet break down looks great, must be fun choking down all that food! Good work, and keep crushing it!
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1 month 2 weeks ago
Mister A 1 month 2 weeks ago
Day 54: The more clean food I eat the more my metabolism speeds up. No TDEE calculator can account for you eating 8 clean, fast digesting meals a day. I'll just keep eating more. My body can clearly handle 420g of carbs a day. I keep my fat at about 60g a day which is only about 15% of my calories, but my metabolism is so much more efficient than when I'm over 80g. On Sunday nights I'm incorporating a cheat meal which is anything I want. Happened to be a lot of breaded cutlets in hilot sauce and bacon cheese fries and a flatbread pizza. I cut out one of my meals so my daily total was around 4200 after that meal. A ton of fat in there. Which I think I need once a week. The Stanolone is revealing a lot more vascularity after 12 days of use. I expect a lot more from it in the next 8 weeks. The libido surge seems to have subsided now. I never got the aggression that others have reported. At least not yet. My Aromasin is at 12.5mg once a week or so right now. I'm just trying to eat as much clean food as I can now. Bumping carbs to 500g on training days. P:400/C:500/F:60 = 4140c. Rest days will remain at the 3820c mark as previously reported.
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blastthru23 1 month 2 weeks ago (In reply to Mister A)
I feel that TDEE calculators give a rough estimate at best,and are likely based on average Americans, which in my opinion you are well above average. Use it as a rough baseline, and with attention, the body will tell you what's working. Further, it can't account for fluctuations in daily activity, and like you said, eating habits. I believe eating multiple small meals throughout the day will make a difference in energy use than chowing down the equivalent calories in 2-3 meals per day whether dirty or clean.
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Mister A 1 month 2 weeks ago (In reply to blastthru23)
Big time. The best calculator you have is the daily tracking notes you take. If you're tracking weight and calories then it's easy to determine your TDEE. I'm significantly bigger than when I started this cycle but this morning I was 242.1. 3 pound gain. The scale isn't important. It's what you look like. If I gain 5 pounds on the scale and 10 pounds of lean tissue then it's a damn successful bulk. And thank you, Blast. You're pretty above average yourself.
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blastthru23 1 month 2 weeks ago (In reply to Mister A)
Aww shucks ;)
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Day 50: Scale going up 2 pounds every day. Too much, too fast. Lowering daily calories to 3820. P:400/C:420/F:60. Approximately 400 calorie surplus.
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SemperFi 1 month 3 weeks ago (In reply to Mister A)
Whoa... You are not trying to go into hibernation. Thanks for the diet update,
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Mister A 1 month 3 weeks ago (In reply to SemperFi)
Well Stage 2 is definitely the heart of the bulk. If I gain fat it'll be during these 10 weeks. The last 4 weeks I'll be changing the diet again. But yeah, 255 is the goal. I don't think getting there in 6 days is necessary.
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Mister A 1 month 3 weeks ago (In reply to SemperFi)
Well Stage 2 is definitely the heart of the bulk. If I gain fat it'll be during these 10 weeks. The last 4 weeks I'll be changing the diet again. But yeah, 255 is the goal. I don't think getting there in 6 days is necessary.
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Day 47: Bumping calories to 4000 every day. Protein: 400/Carbs: 420/Fats: 80. It's basically just Chicken, Turkey, Beef, Eggs, Whites, White Rice, Spinach. I'm just trying to keep it simple and clean. My lethargy stopped almost immediately after my blood donation. I do the Double Red Blood Cell donation. Doctor sending my blood work to me now. AST and ALT were extremely high due to DBol which is no surprise. She's making me get a liver ultrasound which will be pretty good actually. Started the Stanolone last week and have been using 50mg daily after my initial 100mg the first pin. It definitely increases my aggression for a few hours. I think I sweat more with it too. Will wait to see what else it does. My scale hasn't moved much since cutting the DBol. I've been treating this time as a recomp to make sure I don't get fat on this bulk. Now I'm going to start looking for weight increases. 4000 calories a day will be a good start. My TDEE on training days is around 3400-3500. Will adjust calories up when scale stops moving. Increasing training frequency to 2 on 1 off for now. This is the start of Phase 1; Stage 2.
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Dolf 1 month 3 weeks ago (In reply to Mister A)
Nice update Grizz! The way drol and dbol make that scale move is addicting. You'll turn that few pounds of water into muscle in no time.
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Mister A 1 month 3 weeks ago (In reply to Dolf)
You know it!
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blastthru23 1 month 3 weeks ago (In reply to Mister A)
Great update, I like how you used your training day TDEE to calculate calories. Nice detail, as usual. And, I appreciate your focus, it shines brother man.
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Mister A 1 month 3 weeks ago (In reply to blastthru23)
Yeah the way I see it is that the rest days will be when I really get into a surplus. I don't like too big of a surplus and if I start getting fat, I'll lower it. But I think I'll do OK here because there are some days my TDEE gets closer to 3700. It's also easier to be locked in on a diet when you're doing the same thing every single day. I prefer the routine. I try to create habits so it's all automatic. Wake up. Weigh myself. 290g of egg whites and 3 whole eggs. Pack meals. Leave for work. It's automatic.
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XXXL 1 month 3 weeks ago (In reply to Mister A)
bro Let you'r protein high 400 is good works perfect with roids ! very importan high protein is duty carbs is good fat oky good job
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Mister A 1 month 3 weeks ago (In reply to XXXL)
Thanks. I had my protein lower when I started out, but I respond really well to 400g. I feel fuller and I don't have to go so high with carbs. It works well for me.
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XXXL 1 month 3 weeks ago (In reply to Mister A)
yes perfect bro high protein is the key
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Day 35: First things first. Ratting on myself because for the past 5 days or so I have only been eating about 70% clean. I've been sick, I had my birthday, a wedding and then some more lethargy and down right lack of discipline as a result. This is an anomaly and I am holding myself accountable and look forward to being locked in again, probably by the end of today. Moving on, I have great news in that I have finally found a doctor I felt comfortable enough with to fully disclose my situation and who I willing to monitor my health despite disagreeing with my use of AAS. We both share an ultimate goal to eventually ween myself off exogenous testosterone so she can prescribe me with TRT. In the interim, she will monitor my health accordingly. Next, I've cut out the DBol after 5 weeks. I'm enjoying the strength gains and the size, but the estrogenic side effects hit me pretty hard some days. Now that I've got my second run with DBol under my belt, I can conclude I'm a much bigger fan of Anadrol. I do not experience the "euphoria" most people claim to have while on DBol. I actually feel pretty shitty in general. My workouts are stellar and the weights seem lighter every week, but the rest of the time I don't feel great. I also think it fucks with my appetite despite splitting my dosage and taking it with food. On Anadrol, my mind is much clearer and more focused. I also experience less water retention with Drol. The strength and aggression are much greater and I actually feel better overall. The end of the cycle will give me the chance to experiment with a new Anadrol protocol that I hope will be more effective while simultaneously causing less stress to my body. I started GHRP-6 yesterday and will run it for as long as I can. I am currently pinning 100mcg on 3 different occasions throughout the day. All with blood sugar as low as possible. (First thing in the morning, pre workout, pre final meal). I notice slight hunger increase and hope to see this improve after the DBol is out of my system. My MK-677 source has discontinued carrying the product. Other sources are nearly 50% more expensive. My honest assessment after the first 35 days is that I have not noticed any of the side effects associated with its use. It's nearly impossible for me to conclude it's working. Therefore justifying the increase in price would be pure experimentation as I sought a new source. I am beginning to lean towards adding MOD GRF 129 to the GHRP-6 in place of the MK-677. The cost would be about the same for MK-677, but the peptides would come from a source I have had great success with. Open to thoughts from anyone on this. I'm beginning to think of myself as more of a DHT kind of guy at this point. I'm looking very forward to Stanolone which I'm going to begin using very soon. Also waiting on blood work still and hope everything comes back solid.
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SemperFi 2 months 1 week ago (In reply to Mister A)
Outstanding cycle log updates as always.
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blastthru23 2 months 1 week ago (In reply to Mister A)
It's interesting how compounds effect users differently. I'm referring to dbol, which many feel like batman, on the other hand, it makes you feel like crap. I'm definitely on the same page with you on DHT, i can't think of a reason not to use it, or a derivative if not for it's synergistic qualities. Looking forward to your thoughts on the MOD-GRF/GHRP combo. I've heard of using CJC/GHRP for a stronger gh pulse.
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Mister A 2 months 1 week ago (In reply to blastthru23)
CJC 1295 No DAC is the same thing as MOD GRF 129. To be honest, I'm starting to feel like less is more. It seems like the only game when it comes to manipulating GH is Pharma grade Humatrope or Serostim for 4-8 IU a day depending on bulking or cutting. Any other method of GH manipulation is a waste for me at this point. That's where I'm at now. Results need to be measurable against their cost in order to justify it. Using peptides for GH output feels like I'm pissing in the dark hoping I hear it hit the water. I'd rather spend the money on high quality food.
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blastthru23 2 months 9 hours ago (In reply to Mister A)
Let's hope we hit water and not an electric fence!
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Mister A 2 months 1 week ago
Day 31: Birthday Back Training was a success. I started with 3 sets of assisted chins. Moved onto T Bar rows with a barbell (the way Ronnie did them) worked up to 7 plates for 7 reps. Moved to seated cable rows for lighter, squeezing work for 4 sets. Then DB rows. That gym goes up to 130s so I did them for a slow and controlled set of 10. Hammer seated rows. 4 plates for 12. Then it was time for what I came there for. Rack Pulls. 225 for 5. 315 for 5. Then I put 405 on and started making some noise. The first 27 reps actually felt pretty easy. They were basically fueled by aggression and excitement. This kind of set will point out your weaknesses very well. When I started the 28th rep, my glutes completely failed. The pins are set right at the knees so I was surprised to see just how much the glutes are involved. The first few inches are basically all glutes. I stopped after 28 and regrouped for a couple seconds. My hamstrings then tried to pick up the slack for my glutes and I felt it almost down into the back of my knee. I realized then that my back could handle more reps, but my lower body was basically done. The next battle I had was going to be with my lungs. Upon completion of the 29th rep, I had to make a decision to stop and regroup again or bang the pins and come right back up. Thinking that I was coming close to passing out, my legs buckling or simply dying, I decided to hit the pins and shoot back up immediately. That last rep was as ugly as they come. But I got it done and then hobbled over to the nearest bench to collect myself. I have my cousin's wedding today. I'll train tomorrow, but I'm taking a couple days off from heavy meal prepping and tracking. Still keeping up with my scheduled pins and dosages. Just giving myself a little bit of balance. I think it'll be good in the long run, at least mentally. My back is sore as all hell today so I'm satisfied with yesterday's workout.
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Big Nasty 2 months 1 week ago (In reply to Mister A)
Great update and fantastic back work! Heavy rack pulls and high reps takes some intestinal fortitude for damn sure. Love it. Happy belated birthday. Enjoy the wedding, give them some Lat spread poses for the pictures!!! You can photo bomb the grooms pics!! LOL
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SemperFi 2 months 1 week ago (In reply to Mister A)
I was confident that it would get done. ;)
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SemperFi 2 months 2 weeks ago
Happy Birthday Griz. Can't wait to hear about your success in your 'something special' experience.
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Day 27: Now we're at 9 days without any AI and I am feeling better each day. Today was the first day I've felt great in awhile. Adapting my diet to eating less food before I train and most of it later on in the day has made a big difference. The hunger has returned. I'm definitely starving post workout. I trained for two hours today. Hit a couple more PR's on Incline DB Press and Decline Barbell. Hitting 405 on Decline Barbell has been a goal of mine for quite awhile. It's beginning to feel doable, but I stopped myself from piling on the weight. I know it's just the DBol and that my shoulder isn't ready for 405 yet. My new perspective is if I can't get it for six reps, then I can't get it. So could I maybe get 405 for one with a spot? Maybe. But I don't see how that's going to help me achieve my body composition goals. That's my focus. It's fun to be strong. It's more fun to succeed at what you set out to do. Overall, everything is growing. Everything is stronger. And I'm still as lean as I was Day 1. My conclusion on ACV's diuretic properties: absolutely amazing. You can barely tell I'm on DBol. I wake up tight every morning. The more food I eat, the tighter I am the next day. My calories are between 3700 and 4100. I've been dealing with some tightness in my quads, specifically the left quad that acts up every now and then. I usually warm up extensively on leg day before going near the squat rack. It's usually at least an hour into the workout before I squat. On Sunday, I was pressed for time and didn't get through my entire warm up. I only went up to three plates, but I knew something was off. Quads and hips were too tight. I'm hoping a couple sports massages will help. And of course, extensively warming up every time. If I can't warm up, I can't train legs. Plain and simple. One day at at a time here. Can't wait to train again! My birthday is on Friday. Gonna do something special for the big 3-0.
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blastthru23 2 months 2 weeks ago (In reply to Mister A)
One thing came to mind about hip tightness. If you see a sports masseuse, ask them to check your piriformis, its a deep lateral rotator that can cause hip trouble. I know its not a quad thing, but it may help in the hip department as far as squats are concerned. Its point of insertion is at the lesser trochanter of the femur.
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blastthru23 2 months 2 weeks ago (In reply to Mister A)
I had a sneaking suspicion you were an Aquarius... i don't give much credence to astrology, but somehow aquarians stand out, maybe because I'm one as well lol. Hope that "something special" brings twice the usual umm...fun ;)
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SemperFi 2 months 2 weeks ago (In reply to Mister A)
Great news and update. Your blood work this coming week should confirm. Great to see the group work together and get you back in the groove Ol' Man! Thanks Dolf for getting Griz re-railed. The cider vinegar results are encouraging. Your priorities appear to be solidly formed and you have a good handle on your age related limitations due to past injuries. ;)
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Dolf 2 months 2 weeks ago (In reply to SemperFi)
Sometimes self experimentation is golden. Being e2 sensitive I know the signs and symptoms of elevated or elevating e2, but didn't know the signs, symptoms, and feeling of crashing and crashed e2. I used aro on cycle to purposely crash my e2, and kept a journal on it. It may sound crazy, but my reasoning was to know for myself, and others. It paid off right here. Grizz it takes a lot longer to bounce back from aro than adex. My protocol after this experience is to use adex during cycle, and right before cycles end and into trt switch to aro. If you go too far adex is much more friendly than aro. Took me 10 days to bounce back from aro whereas adex it would only take a few days. Just food for thought. Happy to see you feeling better brother!
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Mister A 2 months 2 weeks ago (In reply to SemperFi)
That's the first time the term "age related limitations" has been used in my direction. Maybe I should apply for social security? AARP? SF, can you recommend a good geriatrician?
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SemperFi 2 months 2 weeks ago (In reply to Mister A)
Social Security is broke. AARP is a scam. Doctors want to keep you sick. You're fucked.....It's better to burn out than to fade away.
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Mister A 2 months 2 weeks ago (In reply to SemperFi)
I guess there's only one thing left to do then. Get big as fuck.
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SemperFi 2 months 2 weeks ago (In reply to Mister A)
Eat, drink, and be merry for tomorrow we may die.... and get big as fuck until that day.

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