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Entering cycle at:
71.00''
204.00
23.00 %
Ending cycle at:
71.00''
214.00
15.00 %
WeekT CypionateOxandroloneArimidexNACHCG
1400mg/week25mg ED0.25mg 2xW600mg ED250IU 2xW
2400mg/week25mg ED0.25mg 2xW600mg ED250IU 2xW
3400mg/week25mg ED0.25mg 2xW600mg ED250IU 2xW
4400mg/week25mg ED0.25mg 2xW600mg ED250IU 2xW
5400mg/week25mg ED0.25mg 2xW600mg ED250IU 2xW
6400mg/week25mg ED0.25mg 2xW600mg ED250IU 2xW
7400mg/week25mg ED0.25mg 2xW600mg ED250IU 2xW
8400mg/week0.25mg 2xW600mg ED250IU 2xW
9400mg/week0.25mg 2xW600mg ED250IU 2xW
10400mg/week0.25mg 2xW600mg ED250IU 2xW
11400mg/week0.25mg 2xW600mg ED250IU 2xW
12400mg/week0.25mg 2xW600mg ED250IU 2xW
MeatsProteinsCarbsFatsExample
DayMuscle GroupsExerciseExerciseExerciseExample
Mondaylegs and backsitupdeadliftcalf rises
Tuesdaychest, shoulders, armsdumbell curlstriceps pullsparalell bars dips, chin ups
Wednesdaybody coreabs crunchfloor wheel
Thursday legs and backsitupdeadliftcalf rises
Fridaychest, shoulders, armsdumbell curlstriceps pullsparalell bars dips, chin ups
Description, stats, concerns and expectations: 
Hello everyone, I'm 46, 204 lb, 5'11", BF ~20% Initially i was going to do NPP + test Prop cycle to gain mass, but it takes time to research all the sources and shipping logistics figured out before i'm ready to place an order. So for now i have decided to go with Test Cyp + Oxandrolone (i have these already) with a goal of mostly loosing fat and getting a little of quality gains. I think my body fat is around 20%, or may be even less, but i have heard many times that it is recommended to bring body fat closer to 10% before starting a gain cycle, so current cycle should prepare me for my next gain cycle. I'm on TRT but I'm going to do PCT because currently I'm on Clomiphen Citrate 50mg ED, several months ago my doctor took me off T Cyp injections because my blood iron went too high. After my last T Cyp injection I'm going to wait 10 days and blast HCG 500IU ED and 0.25 Arimidex 2xW for a week. After that Tamox + Clomid. Please comment if you see flows in my plan or you have an advice to share. thank you.
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11 posts written for Test Cyp + Oxandrolone. Latest on: January 26 2017
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5 months 4 weeks ago
Dolf 5 months 4 weeks ago
Cycle looks pretty good except for a few minor things. Cyp is a longer ester so the adex shouldn't be started until 3 weeks into your cycle. Don't wanna crash your e2 brotha. Var is a very very mild compound. 25mgs ed is purely a waste of money. You'd probably get similar results from Flintstone vitamins lol. 70 to 80 mg is what you need. If you don't have enough then save it for later and order more. Lastly doctors are sometimes not up to date with trt since it's so new to most of them, and they neglect to put in the time to research it. Elevated iron can be remedied with blood donations. Try discussing this with your doctor or get a 2nd opinion. Double red blood cell donations on a regular basis us how I control my hematocrit issues.
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para.forum
6 months 1 week ago
para.forum 6 months 1 week ago
I completed this cycle a little earlier than expected, no big deal though. Starting basic PCT, Tamox + Clomid treatment in a few days. I'm satisfied with the result: 2014 lb overall and i by looking in a mirror i see i have 30% or 40% less fat on my stomach an around. So I think it is pretty decent to gain 10 lb and loose about 40% fat with a moderate amounts of Test Cyp and Oxandrolone I was using for this cycle. Pharma grade Oxandrolone as always brings me great strength gains, even this time i was stretching it, 7 weeks with 25mg/ED. As a liver support I used NGuard + some extra NAC. If I would have better discipline with my diet I believe my results could be even better. If you anyone has questions I will be glad to answer. thanks.
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siegmund
10 months 4 days ago
siegmund 10 months 4 days ago
I would up the test to 500 , just a basic miniun i believe in , 400 Is not far off tho. But 25 mg of oxandrole.is , way to low i like 50
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para.forum
10 months 4 days ago
para.forum 10 months 4 days ago (In reply to siegmund)
Siegmund, Thanks for you comment. The T Cyp I have is 200mg/ml so 2 injection a week is 400mg, and it is packaged in 1ml vials. It would be complicated to make it 500mg a week. The similar story with Oxandrolone, I'm using my leftovers from my pharma grade 50 50mg capsules. Last time I used half of it, splitting each capsule in two. I paid premium price for that oxandrolone, so I try to stretch it. So I have a choice to take it 50mg a day for 25 days or 25mg a day for 50 days. Do you think I would be better off on 50mg a day for 25 days? Thank you.
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siegmund 10 months 4 days ago (In reply to para.forum)
Personaly id use 50 for 25 days and lol i knew you had 200mg vials. Why else 400. Watch your hcg like semi said
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para.forum
10 months 4 days ago
para.forum 10 months 4 days ago (In reply to siegmund)
thank you.
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10 months 5 days ago
SemperFi 10 months 5 days ago
Thanks for sharing. My initial thoughts and opinion- 500IU of HCG ED x 7 days will cause further inhibition of HPTA worsening your recovery situation. HCG does not restore natural testosterone production. Your system should be clear of HCG for about 7 days before PCT begins. If your goal is to lose fat with steroid use please outline your diet plan so we can add some advice from experience. The more information you can provide the better. The 3 keys to a successful cycle is going to be diet, diet, diet. Good luck brother!
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para.forum
10 months 4 days ago
para.forum 10 months 4 days ago (In reply to SemperFi)
SF, I got the idea of HCG before PCT from another forum: "The main focus with HCG is to restore the normal ability of the testes to respond to endogenous luteinizing hormone. After a long period of inactivity, this ability may have been seriously reduced. In such a state testosterone levels may not reach a normal point, even though the release of endogenous LH has been resumed. Many who have suffered severe testicular shrinkage may be able to relate, as it is often some time before normal testicle size and feelings of virility are restored if ancillary drugs had not been used. The excessive stimulation brought forth by administration of HCG can likewise cause the testicles to rapidly return to their normal size and level of activity. " "Testosterone ethanate 500mg per week(250mg on Monday and 250 mg on Thursday ) for 12 weeks Exemestane 12.5mg everyday 15 weeks Hcg 500iu per week(250iu along with testosterone injection) 12 weeks Hcg 1000iu everyday for the last 10 days of your cycle leading up to your pct" I just was wrong about timing, it should be used last 10 days of cycle. What do you think about that? I have in my head what most likely i will be eating during cycle, i just need to look up on food labeling to see number of carbs, fats and proteins in my portions to fill out the diet table in here. It is my next step. Breakfast suspects: eggs, oatmeal on milk with honey, almond butter, smoked meat (i get it from German meat shop, long way better than Boarshead or anything of that type) with Havarti cheese on slice of bread, protein shake with banana and milk. Meals suspects: Chicken breast, canned tuna, beef stake, beans, potato, rice, very little bread, eggs, spleet peas Snacks suspects: almond butter, hazelnuts, walnuts, dried apricots, cottage cheese, protein shake with banana and milk, bananas. Please let me know if you think any of those foods should not be on my list. (I understand that it comes down to how much of it i eat, but may be there is something in my list i should not eat at all...) thank you for your comments. PS: I can not format this text in a readable form, no spaces or line breaks.
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9 months 2 weeks ago
Mister A 9 months 2 weeks ago (In reply to para.forum)
Outlining the diet is your second step. It should have been your first. Given the low dosage of this cycle, you will receive zero fat burning effects from the steroids. Zero. Your diet will have to be the most component to your fat loss and muscle gaining goals. Understanding your basal metabolic rate, your Total Daily Energy Expenditure and nutrition timing to make an effective diet to support your goals.
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SemperFi 10 months 4 days ago (In reply to para.forum)
Thank you for your explanation Para. How you apply HCG is your decision. I was simply offering you my opinion from a scientific perspective. Since you are already running it throughout cycle the extra dosage is not beneficial in my opinion. 1000iu's ED for the last 10 days is overkill especially at our age. Fortunately HCG is inexpensive and if you decide to run it as outlined your expense is limited.
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para.forum
10 months 4 days ago
para.forum 10 months 4 days ago (In reply to SemperFi)
I agree with you that 1000IU ED is too much, i just copy and pasted it. Also I have heard about such term as "testicles desensitization" due to over stimulation with large doses of HCG... thanks.

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