Dianabol and Turinabol

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Dianabol and Turinabol

I'm following Dolf's "First 6 Cycles" guide as if it were a damn religion. I am very thankful he put it up as it's keeping this dog on a short chain. I can totally see how people take one Test cycle and then dive head first into Tren...the temptation is real! 

As I am now buying the supplies for my third cycle, Dolf's guide states that it's time for some Tbol...and the fourth cycle I get to try some Dbol. I have researched extensively the benefits and sides of both Tbol and Dbol and they seem to be quite similar. Actually the sides of all AAS seem to be listed the same as each other. But, I am most interested in reading what the more experienced MG users think of these two orals. What were your results? What sides did you experience from both or one of these? Please give me the good and the bad so I know how deep the water I'm about to jump into is. Thanks in advance

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It's not a bible but just an

It's not a bible but just an example of what I personally would have done.

Dbol and tbol are very similar yet very different. Dbol will add more bloat, weight, strength, and will aromatize more quickly which if estro sensitive will let you know very quickly.

Tbol adds less bloat, less size, and less strength, but will also harden the muscles like anavar. I usually describe it as if dbol and var fucked...tbol would be the child.

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So, stronger than Var and

So, stronger than Var and weaker than Dbol

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Less weight is mostly due to

Less weight is mostly due to the lack of water and bloat. Not weak, just different. Think quality not quantity. Like said above, quite a bit less aromatization.

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I typically gain 20lbs of

I typically gain 20lbs of quick weight with dbol at 50mg ed for 6 weeks. With tbol it's about 12 to 15lbs at 60mg for 6 weeks. The difference is 5lbs of bloat. As far as strength goes dbol will add it very quickly, but if you're not careful it'll csuse you tendon issues whereas tbol not so much. The dbol gives you a very good sense of well being and tbol hives you hardened muscles and vascularity. Add proviron to the tbol and the vascularity is even more pronounced as long as your bf% is low enough.

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Damn auto spell on my new

Damn auto spell on my new phone is changing the words. Apologies. 

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Not saying it's a bible, just

Not saying it's a bible, just saying it's keeping me from doing something stupid (which I'm inclined to do every once in a while.) 

 

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I remember reading that post.

I remember reading that post. It made tons of sense to me. I received a lot of good advise from Dolf along the way. I did my own research on a ton of stuff the last few years but for me, Personal experience is best... I react to these compounds different than most do.  I read a lot and it seems a lot doesn't pertain to me. However, I have helped many during their cycles from info I have read.  The key is to pay attention to your cycle results and keep notes. You will learn what compounds you can or cant use.. You will learn your body most importantly..

 

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Tbol is my favorite oral for

Tbol is my favorite oral for overall use. Stacks well with anything and it's SHBG properties just make anything else on your cycle that much better. I find it great for a strength and energy kickstart on a cycle with minimal sides (mass gains are minimal but stable but you can workout like a major MFer). It's a dry compound (doesn't aromatize) so additional bloat isn't an issue so it's great for cutting or sports where you're weight classed like powerlifting. Only side I have ever dealt with is back pumps but you see that with just about everything.

Dbol is another matter for me. She is a brutal bitch that personally i feel only the young should flirt with. I can't handle or control the additional bloat caused by Diana anymore and the cycle isn't worth the discofort. I literally bloat up to Micheline Man proportion. It is isn'tt pretty.

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That shit makes me ten times

That shit makes me ten times aggressive than even tren. I was almost afraid to drive while on that D over the fall. I love that initial  sense of well being, but then turning into a silverback gorilla for the rest of the month can be a little much at times..

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I hear ya! My thing is the

I hear ya! My thing is the bloat though. The edema cause by Dbol just kills me over time. I can take 3 weeks tops before I am just miserable! The added stress to the heart and lungs just isn't worth it

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FRIEND REquest send bro

FRIEND REquest send bro

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In my older age dbol and drol

In my older age dbol and drol are just not doable anymore. Both those bastards fuck with my bp. 

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Very interesting post man! I

Very interesting post man! I have a bottle of dbol myself that I was saving for later down the road but maybe I will go with Tbol, I assume that's short for Turinabol right?

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Yes sir...

Yes sir...

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Don't discount Dbol. As much

Don't discount Dbol. As much as all of us old folks might complain about her, she still has a place in this game. A large majority of new users start their journey with it. If you're new to AAS I recommend Dbol in moderation because it gives such quick results and we all know new users are impatient for fast results. (Regardless was vets preach)

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Very true! Dbol was my

Very true! Dbol was my favorite oral back in the day.

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Very good point Razor! Dbol

Very good point Razor! Dbol was by far my favorite oral with var being my second. 

 

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Very interesting guys. But to

Very interesting guys. But to clarify, why not just go with Tren vs D or Tbol? 

Serious question by the way

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I consider myself a Tren

I consider myself a Tren fanboy. I absolutely love the shit, and respond extremely well to it. That being said, Tren and dbol aren’t really a very valid comparison, imo

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Tren is like that psycho

Tren is like that psycho girlfriend you dumped, but keep going back to because the sex is so good!

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LIke sex with a gorilla. Its

LIke sex with a gorilla. Its not over until the gorilla says it’s over...

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haaaa

made me spit my coffee out!

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1 I'm not ready for tren

1 I'm not ready for tren

2 I'm afraid of tren

3 please repeat numbers one and two

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I wish I understood the

I wish I understood the difference.

What as you understand them are the sides and fears of Tren vs Tbol for example?  I truly don't know.

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Tbol is like taking a nice

Tbol is like taking a nice spring day stroll while eating your favorite ice cream on a waffle cone. 

Tren is like fighting a pack of pitbulls in the muddy backyard of a Chicago slum house!

Tbol is like sleeping on the most comfortable bed you've ever laid on.

Tren is like sleeping in a sauna on a bed of nails.

Tbol is the relaxed feeling you get after 2 glasses of wine.

Tren is like drinking a fifth of rot gut tequila and picking a bar fight in a Hells Angels bar. 

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Exactly! That's why I love it

Exactly! That's why I love it! Gorilla fights in mud, swigging cheap 100 proof gin (gin is like tequila for me), and I'm a glutton for punishment (whips, ropes, chains, nipple clamps, and... well I'll stop there). Don't particularly like ice cream or walks in a park. Much more prefer dark alleys. 

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Funniest descriptions ever!

Funniest descriptions ever!

I haven't tried Tren but I'm told it magnifies both the best and worst of you. My years in the middle east taught me a lot but it really taught me to fear myself and what I can do. I left that persona in a dusty destroyed town and I don't want him paying me a visit. So, I doubt I'll ever try Tren.

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It does magnify mental states

It does magnify mental states X10+. And, you can go from crying like a little bitch while watching, as Dolf puts it, "Old Yeller", to ready to rip a mother fucker apart for cutting you off in traffic, or texting too long on a piece of gym equipment that you may or may not need. Then, there's the "every female two legged creature looks good." Its a ride for sure

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Tren/Test/mast/viagra is my

Tren/Test/mast/viagra is my new favorite stack! Keeps me from rolling out of bed in the middle of the night, that’s for sure. Scared I’m gonna wake up one of these mornings looking like a hot dog thats been in the microwave too long...

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Be careful with the V brotha.

Be careful with the V brotha... overuse can cause dependency in some. As great as it is, it would suck to have to take it the rest of your life. I love the tren, test & mast myself!!

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The best piece of advice I

The best piece of advice I could give anyone about Tren is, without a doubt, not to let anyone else ever tell you that you’re ready for it. Let’s be real, unless you’re a pro BB or trying to become one, none of us really has a legitimate excuse for being on it. I’m ”lucky” in that I am Extremely responsive to it and I handle it pretty well, tons of people aren’t that way. Thats all your call brother, and you’ll never get any grief for it around here, I can promise you that. 

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You guys are all twisted...

You guys are all twisted AF... Lol

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It comes with being over

It comes with being over forty brother! Tripped out and twisted. Life's to short to be otherwise ;)

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That was fantastic. Well said

That was fantastic. Well said and thanks to all.

Can I ask one more follow up then;  what is the expected result difference between Tren and Tbol then?  From what I read above it sounds like you would expect the same basic results, thus why ever use tren?  Or is that a misread and there is a big difference in growth etc?

And thank you all in advance for the education!

(PS I have two things of Tren, anyone want them for free? I am too scared to use them now. HAHAHA)

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Tren is a powerful bf cutting

Tren is a powerful bf cutting steroid. It's pretty much the only compound you can eat at maintenance or even a slight deficit and cut bf% and add lean mass. While on tren your body does more with fewer calories. It also adds great amounts of strength. On the flip side tren is abused by many because they can have a garbage diet, drink alcohol, and still lean out. With the great benefits of tren comes the negatives. Excessive sweating, night sweats, sleeplessness, very shitty attitude, very aggressive attitude, withdraw from those you normally socialize with, depression, and some go mentally to a very very dark place. I've watched many a member here cycle tren and in a few werks you can literally see the change in the way they interact with the community and others. 

Let's be honest here. Any aas use other than a trt dose for those who are low t is not needed. Tren should not be feared, but should be respected. Through personal experience and my wife telling me; I know my limit is 8 weeks. After that my attitude turns really shitty. Know your limits, and listen to your loved ones. No gear is worth losing those you love. 

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I agtee 1000% with the

I agtee 1000% with the behavioral changes, I see them in myself something fierce. While I don't get depressed, I'm either super lovey-dovey or a dick or both at once. I get aggressive-assertive when backed into an argumentative corner, then outta nowhere, I'm suddenly compassionate and forgiving. Its a fuckin ride. When I get moody, I just think of someone I care about, and tell them something nice, boom, mood changes. I like how whatever mood I'm in is magnified, so I can change it in a heartbeat most of the time. Good ole Treena, my leather clad mistress of mysterious psinful pleasure. The sting of her whip brings tears, and damn does it feel ummm GOOD

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100% agree with that!  And

100% agree with that!  And thanks...I believe I have filled a lot of gaps in my knowledge base and that is always fun! Have a great weekend guys!