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The Tren train

For those of you who have jumped onboard the Tren train, what was your fears & expectations before getting onboard? I had heard so much negative that I was actu nervous the first time I pinnned it! Haha While it can be a beast, I have found that knowing how to tame is key.... you know, finding that sweet spot of test to tren & what doses & how long to run the cycle. I fell in love head over hills with tren & prop!!! I'm conteplating a Tren E & Test E cycle now. I've never tried E &'realize now the precautions. 

Now let's get back to juicing fam:):)

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Tren... when i first heard of

Tren... when i first heard of her (i call her Treena, the Great Mistress!), i was told it was amazing, even the best. I was not informed of the side effects, so i didn't have any fears, just great expectations. 

It wasn't until i came to mg that heard of the imsomnia, sweats, and paranoia. Oh, and prolactin, thus caber. I had run oral tren, but who the fuck knows what it really was, probably dbol the way i puffed up full of water! Come to think of it, the dosing was identical.

Since my first go at tren, Ive come to love the compound. The sides aren't as intense as the first time. Sweats and libido are all there still, sweats not as bad, but still there. Never got paranoid, but have experienced insomnia, but im already an insomniac anyways.

I dose tren ace at 525-700 per week. As far tren e, ive heard to frontload with ace for two or three weeks (do both ace and e), as well as with prop with e.

For me, i am sticking with the shorts as i like to asjust if needed.

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Tren doesn't work for me.

Tren doesn't work for me. Physically it does but I started getting Tren cough on my 3rd run only when I pin the Legs. I am not saying never because next spring I could see it but I just cant get passed the certain effects. Priorities are changing and I can do it without the Tren. Till date, my best cycle was NPP, Sust and var. I would change the sust to Prop now. 4 Tren coughs in a row and I just had to say no for now.. An amazing drug but I just cant. I never felt more Alpha then when I was on Tren. Almost Iconic...

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Bro, the crazy side of me

Bro, the crazy side of me (which takes up most of me) loves the tren cough!! I know that's sounds crazy, but it reminds me that's it is indeed tren. ;) I usually only get it pinning quads & pecs. Nothing like coughing with a pin stuck in your chest to remind you that your only a man hahaha

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It did change my physique in

It did change my physique in a positive manner... If I decide to give it a go again it will be at 350 mgs max. A lot of great things can be done with low doses. Tren, primo and Prop. sounds like a ripper to me... One day at a time...

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I love the short esters, but

I love the short esters, but SZ was talking about the benifits of long esters vs short & got me to wondering if there's an advantage to the Tren E over Tren A. Idk, guess we'll see

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I read his posts and it

I read his posts and it totally made sense. I have my winter cycle planned with long esters but I love that prop. Its hands down my favorite..  Geez, I hope Subzero didn't get totally turned off. The guy is smart and a gentleman... He might have just joined at the wrong time.. Time will tell..

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I am on Day 4 of that exact

I am on Day 4 of that exact cycle Strong. Let's see where I land. I honestly can't see using Tren beyond 350mg/wk at this level but we all have different experiences to share from.

 

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Agreed.. I've run Tren at

Agreed.. I've run Tren at 600mgs but found 500ish range to be what works for me. I can see running 350mgs for a couple weeks then ramp it up. The beginning of my short ester cycles bring me anxiety if I don't ramp it up.. That is another thing I've learned. Try to stick to cycle plans but adjustments may be needed and its easier with short esters.

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Almost every time, i find

Almost every time, i find adjustments are necessary in one direction or another. Though test usually ever needs adjustment, so i could see runming a long ester test. But the 19's i like to be able to mess with if needed. I too love NPP. It will likely be a mainstay for me.

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The word "Tren" get me all

The word "Tren" get me all warm and fuzzy. As for the cough, can say I get off on it Jar but it down valadare what you are pinning.

As for long over short ester I am still up in the air with which works best. Back when parabolin hit the scene guys were getting jacked off two amps/week and with tren hex that's only 76mg/amp. Now guys are pinning 1o0mg/day of ace to get the same. I love balst cycles but the frequent pins really do suck. Last tren cycle I did was with Enth @300mg/week and the results were far better than with ace @100mg/day. I am starting to favor the long cycles again for some reason as long as it's not deca. Deca, and eq, cycles are like prison terms and recovery takes forever.  

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You are the first to validate

You are the first to validate to me the results were better from Tren E... I am leaning that way! Yeah Milken it's not the actual period of coughing i like .... its afterwards looking back & sayin, yup that's Tren lol

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I found it to be better for

I found it to be better for me bro now others will swear on ace. Ace is def better for beginners due to it's short half life and it's ability to control sides easier. But I still feel you get that rollercoaster effect in the bloodstream with shorts. Just my opinion. 

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That's what I'm thinking bro.

That's what I'm thinking bro. I've had several Tren cycles now & all have been Ace & I firmly believe they should be until you learn how the compound effects your body. With my hectic schedule I prefer less frequent pinning & the ability to stabilize the bloods more effectively.

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Hey Milken, I usually run

Hey Milken, I usually run Tren A no longer than 10-12 weeks. What did your Tren E cycle run & what doses? I'm very interested!

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Tren affects everyone

Tren affects everyone differently. Some get insanely jealous, or their mind goes to a dark place, or they withdraw from others around them, and many many other issues. For me it just wears me down after a while, and when my mind and body say no more I've got to get off which is why ace is the only tren for me. After that last tren run I might not run it again. Who am I kidding! Lol but I'll probably give it a long break...maybe. That tren allure is a motherfucker! Lol

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Yeah man, 10-12 weeks Tren A

Yeah man, 10-12 weeks Tren A & I'm usually ready physically to come off.... that's what I'm wondering about the effects of the A & the length of cycle

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8 weeks is my limit. After 6

8 weeks is my limit. After 6 weeks my attitude gets real shitty, and after 8 weeks I turn into a super asshole.

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Uh...

Uh... you are already are a super asshole if not fully complete so what was the actual problem?

I am giving tren another go. My first experience was not a complete disaster but because of my training style at the time I needed to rely on heavy endurance and tren is not endurance friendly. I gave it a negative review as a compound because of that. All the way to the point of calling it useless because of the negative impact it had on my endurance. Since then my training goal and style has changed and I wanted to give it a fair shot.... shredding it to bare muscle. 

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I Love TREN!!

I love Tren, but wish I had more experience when I first used it, I went off a buddies knowledge.  Well lets just say the experience I have now with Tren, wasnt all blow jobs and rainbows,( Seth Feroce words)  i had a successful cycle.But wish I knew the things I know now about it. But I love love tren. The experience I have it came from the hard knocks, but now can control the Lion better, and get a hell of alot more out of it. Tren is a awesome drug, but definitely shouldnt be taken lightly.

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Thankfully I had my first

Thankfully I had my first Tren cycle after I came to MG, I had a lot of good help. The only thing is that Tren doesn't effect everyone the same, so it took time to figure out my body with Tren!

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As soon as you figure it out,

As soon as you figure it out, it will change...

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Especially the older I get!!

Especially the older I get!!

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Yes indeed

Yes indeed, I have little differences in each cycle with Tren, well all of the compunds for that matter,  but Tren when you think you have it down to a science, you'll get shown up. Lol  Im not sure, but I mostly noticed the difference between where I got it. Not saying any was bad, but matbe the recipe was a bit different. So while on it, I will stick to on src, and not switch up unless needed.  It helps me know whats going on, and catch little things.

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Each time ive used it, it was

Each time ive used it, it was a different experience. I love it, but i understand the affair may go sour, but i doubt it. I always have an itch that only tren can scratch.

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I found this very interesting

I found this very interesting...the effects of nandrolones on the brain.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPtr2_losZM

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That was interesting bro & I

That was interesting bro & I was unaware of effects on short term memory... thanks for share +1

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No comment....... lol. 

No comment....... lol. 

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bahahaha :):)

bahahaha :):)

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I will just say......

I will just say......

Shit! I forgot what I wanted to say. ;)

 

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tren cough! i like it too 

tren cough! i like it too 

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Tren love/hate realtionship

Tren is indeed an AMAZING product. But the sides are real for a lot of people. After years of using it, every other cycle, I decided that I would only use it  the last 8 weeks before a show.  I loved the way it would fine tune my body the last 6-8 weeks before a show. But since size was not what I was looking for (I was big enough at 265 f0r 5'8") I would only use it when I could not do without it. the last few weeks before a show. I said "was" because I stop competing and stopped using tren all together. I was dosing Tren A at 150 eod or 100 ed. Both system work well. But for me the insomnia, sweat, paranoia and anxiety would be unbearable after a few week. Tren cough wasn't be a big deal to me.. a bitch when it happens but no real big deal. I could not wait to start this compound because I knew how it would help me be stage ready but  after a few weeks on it I would count the days to get off of it because of the way I was feeling. So it was a love/hate relationship. I personally would not do tren if I wasn't competing but we are all different regarding the sides. I know plenty of guys that would not do a cycle without tren in it.

 

 

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I personally have a love love

I personally have a love love relationship with treena. I hate counting the days til the train comes to a halt. 

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I'm riding it now ;-)

I'm riding it now ;-)

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Enjoy! Hooot! Hoot!

Enjoy! Hooot! Hoot!

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I wish I

Could say I want to be on that train! Tren and I have had our fun this year. Not sure if we will ever hook up again...

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I have 1 more run in me.... 

I have 1 more run in me....  : )

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Oh no that's not good!! I'm

Oh no that's not good!! I'm riding the Tren E train this time so I will ride a lap for you! ;-)

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You would

Do that for me!?? I love you!

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Of course my dear <3  I love

Of course my dear <3  I love you too!

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You aint riding my lap LOL!

You aint riding my lap LOL!

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Jar and All

Question: What are the lasting effects of Tren that you all have experienced and/or been able to keep once the Tren train has stopped. For example, with just test E/C as a base, I have been able to maintain solid growth in mass and strength permanently to the point where family and friends have been questioning and grilling me for the past 3 years on "what Im doing" lol 

Im adding Tren on my next cycle which I will start sometime in late OCT to  early DEC to discover how it affects me in a lean mass gain cycle. I have done lots of reading on here and what I haven't seen anyone discuss is any long term benefits of Tren. Ive listened to all the positives of fantastic gains in vascularity, transformation in conditioning, cuts, better definition, strength, mass, etc. in the short haul but nothing on permanent gains from using Tren. That said, do you lose your gains as quickly as you get them or what? Jar not meaning to derail your post, just hoping to learn more from it and those of you who have used Tren.  Obviously from all the positives here its certainly motivating to hear the short term benefits but I was just curious if anyone could comment on long term sustainables. Im doing Tren A regardless out of sheer curiosity anyway at least once or twice in the next few years. 

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BN it's just like most other

BN it's just like most other steroids. You gain and keep only how good your diet and training is while on tren, and especially while off tren. Of course a trt guy has an advantage just like with any other cycle.

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Great reality check Dolf. The

Great reality check Dolf. The reminder helps me keep this game in the right perspective. We can't cheat our way to real progress. ;)

The one thing that stands out to me about tren is the nutrient utilization. I certainly cannot measure the increase but I can say it is noticeable from my personal experience.

 

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SF When you said nutrient

SF When you said nutrient utilization do you mean a better utilization / nitrogen balance of protein, better effects on lean mass gains from the food that you consume?? And was it more/less noticeable compared to Test, Ment, Primo, etc. 

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The effects for me are unique

The effects for me are unique to tren accept maybe the muscle preservation effects of Primo. For me calories go farther on tren and bowel movements are less frequent. More miles from the calories consumed. ;)

Read up on the nutrient partitions effects of trenbolone.

 

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Will do brother. Thank you

Will do brother. Thank you

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Tren does more with less

Tren does more with less which is why it's possible to eat at maintenance or a slight deficit and gain muscle mass and weight. 

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Thanks for the reply Dolf.

Thanks for the reply Dolf. Was just curious about any distinct differences if any in Tren compared to Test and other compounds being that its promoted as one of the top steroids. I agree of course that diet and training are just as big factors in the whole spectrum but in my opinion its also impossible to keep all of our gains when cycling no matter how good the diet is or we would only need 2 or 3 good mass cycles for our entire life of AAS use.  Next cycle for me will be Test P, EQ, and Tren A. Seth Feroce has a youtube video breakdown of the cycle he does/ has done however he has Mast P, Anavar and GH thrown in there as well.  I will do 16-20 weeks of Test P/EQ with Tren A thrown somewhere in the middle to punch through that plateau that tends to occur mid cycle. 

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Absolutely true. It would be

Absolutely true. It would be "a magic pill" if we kept all our gains...lol

One of the reasons I personally feel tren is so adored by many is unfortunately a guy can eat like pure shit, and still burn fat and lean out. It gives the ability for an undisciplined individual to eat garbage, drink beer, and do whatever but still shed bf.  

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Sounds like magic juice!! LOL

Sounds like magic juice!! LOL Hoping may staple eating of deer, elk, and chicken with rice will work to to bring on lean gains. 

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