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Just a damn millwright

Hey guys, I’m new to the site and have recently kind of discovered working out as a hobby. I have a couple buddy’s who regularly go the gym, as we have free access through place of employment to a top notch full gym. I’m 32 yrs old, 6ft, and 150lbs, and always been somewhat skinny. I am definitely active at work as a millwright, climbind around on and handling big shit. I began changing my diet to be more balanced with more Whole Foods, Greek yougurt, peanut butter, alot of fish and rice, eggs and chicken, and oatmeal, whole milk. I know I’ve got to dial it all in and and get better with how I’m eating, what I’m eating and the right times to eat it all, and possible add some protein mix shakes to help supplement. I’ve began exploring the possibility, and would like to try a test e cycle in the near future. Not sure if this is the right forum to explain all this , and if not apologize. As a starter was going to go with 500mg of test e a week, 250mg on Sunday and 250mg on wed. Then I thought maybe I should start at 400 a week istead of 500. I’d like to go for 10 weeks and of course have pct ready beforehand, Arimidex and clomid and such. Also will do more more research on pct to make sure I have what I need and right dosages, and whether to take Arimidex during the cycle or not. I’ve done alot of studying and still have a lot more to do. I would of course have my bloodwork done beforehand, during and after the cycle. At 150lbs, I’d love to be at 170 or 175. I’ve always been able to throw down the food, but am eating extra meals now with a lot of milk and protein and chicken with brown rice. Gym routine is getting better as I’ve done some studying and listen to buddies at the gym, doing different muscle groups allowing for recovery and such. Working 10 hr days 5 days a week and going to the gym every day is a task, but I’m getting to the gym 4 days a week now and plan to do more soon.  Hope this is not all a bad idea and if it is, by all means, Im all ears. Thanks in advice for any advice

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Welcome to MG! 

Welcome to MG! 

You are on the right track, thats for sure. Bloodwork is very important, and is the first step prior to running aas. I noticed that you "recently kind of discovered [training]". Thats awesome, but i need you to be more specific. At any rate, the minimum time training must be at least 18 months to 2 years of solid diet and training before running a cycle. Its important to strengthen your tendons, get into a routine with diet, and become comfortable with training hard. Its also a very good idea to really dig into researching training styles, and approaches to diet in view of your current and future goals, not only aas compounds (thats fairly straight forward). 

Its very important to understand that aas only work when everything else is dialed in, i.e., diet, training, rest, water intake. 

Finally, a test-only cycle is best for the first handful of cycles. My first two were test prop at 350mg/week. It was amazing, nothing like the first time. But, in all honesty, i was not ready. There was only gym bros giving bad afvice that was handed down from other gym bros. Here, you have the benefit of getting sound advice so you wont have to make the same mistakes many of here have made :)

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Thanks, I certainly

Thanks, I certainly appreciate the advice and will make sure to continue training In the gym and learning as much as possible before moving forward with aas. I’m basically brand new to training in a gym, only about a month in and still have an enormous amount to do and learn before I’d start a first cycle. I’ve never been above 160-165lbs, but I’ve also never continuously trained at the gym. I guess the idea of aas sparked my interest. I know that using testosterone should not be my main interest and I should continue training to my body’s fullest extent before starting the cycle. With many options in aas presented to me recently, I thought I’d just start with the test e and see what my body was capable of. I will definately take your advice in waiting longer until I’m ready and do things the safest and most realistic way possible. Thanks again for your input

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+3 for having a great

+3 for having a great attitude respect   you are going to go far

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welcome pleasure to have you 

welcome pleasure to have you  

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Thanks siegmund,nice to meet

Thanks siegmund,nice to meet you guys and will keep in touch down the road as I continue learn and train. As I become more prepared I may ask for advice as well, so I’d have the most knowledge going forward.

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thats why we are here to help

thats why we are here to help guide you and give you advice as you go ... so please stay active and learn and read  and ask questions the only stupid questionnis the 1 not asked 

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welcome 

welcome 

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Welcome and just a counter

Welcome and just a counter point.

Blast is MUCH smarter than me and his advice is wise and basically perfect. If you want to develop your best and safest long term follow basically exactly what he says.  However I will say one thing in contrast....you will get benefit from Test right now without being perfect on everything else before hand. It WILL put more weight on you, it WILL make you stronger and more aggressive etc...etc... Might not do everything it should or to the best or healthiest but it does work regardless.

Hope this makes sense. 

So here is my basic advice. NOw and always, view steroid usage as something you have to earn. Earn the right and you will get the most and safest benefit!  Also...first cycle - 500mg like you originally planned.

Welcome and hope to hear from you again.

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Thanks guys I will take all of this into consideration, I will definately  be getting my form right in the gym and working my muscles more. I just didn’t realize I should wait that long to start. I don’t disagree at all with Blast, as im sure 18 mos to 2 yrs training is probably best before starting a cycle. I was actually planning on starting a basic cycle much sooner than that, before hearing from  you guys. I can’t say that I’m not excited to start it, but I also know testo cannot be my main focus. Im not trying to turn into a massive animal, just add some weight and muscle, and as I spend more time in the gym I’m sure I wouldn’t slack after the cycle was over. Any thoughts on how long I should wait after the first cycle was over to begin a 2nd? I can’t see myself moving to multiple compounds in a cycle. Not saying that I won’t, but with no experience, I have no plans to in the future. Again, thanks for the input, I don’t want to waste anyone’s time here with all the discussion for a newbie, but just trying to get sound advice. 

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As you train and eat clean,

As you train and eat clean, you will put on muscle and lose fat. Sure, a trt dose of test would do something, but at the end of the day, youre cheating yourself out of valuable learning, and experience. Im going to be the naysayer/asshole and just tell you flat out that youre getting waaayyyy ahead of yourself thinking of a second cycle with added compounds. Instead, you ought to be planning your next weeks training schedule, and wondering which grocery store has the best price on boneless-skinless chicken breast. A toddler isnt tninking about grad school ;)

How about this, so we can really get your ball rolling:

1) training plan; training split. Whats it look like?  Write it out so we can help u with that if needed

2) what is your diet? How many meals? Macro breakdown per meal? TDEE? Caloric target per day or week?

These are what matter right now, not future cycles. Go about your goal[s] sanely and safely and youll be all the better for it. Go at it headfirst and balls deep, well that water may be shallow... mostly i see dudes getting disappinted and scof the whole traiming lifestyle and readily return to shithole life of being out of shape and depressed. Lets not do that :)

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lol, you are right blast, and

lol, you are right blast, and I don’t disagree. I’ll be honest and say that I’m not that structured yet with counting macros and im still trying to learn a routine that works in the gym. Before I was only eating about 2-3 meals a day. I would stuff myself when I ate, but that’s not good enough. I’m up to about 4 smaller meals a day now, not even smaller I guess as I love to eat. Start morning with big shake, of Greek whole milk yogurt 2/3 cup, 3/4 cup oatmeal, 2 tbsp peanut butter, 3/4 cup whole milk, 1 banana. I believe it’s around 800-900 calories, I forget. I’d have to check the protein count again, but it’s pretty high. I’ve not done any set meal prep yet, and I probably should. I never ate breakfast before. I’d go to work and eat on 10 am break. So now I start with the shake at 6 am. I’ve been eating a lot of chicken and fish and brown rice, pasta. Having whole milk with my meals usually now instead of a soda or something. Trying to drink more water as well. Temps at work can be as high as 130F-140F on bad day in summer so I stay hydrated, but sweat like a bastard. Which I’m sure sheds lbs. I’m eating whole wheat bread now instead of white. Blast, I’ll have to get this more dialed in so I have something that’s worth talking about I guess, but my eating has gotten better, and I’ll try getting more macro counts. Training at gym is something I need to get better with as well. I know i need about 5 days In gym, and I can usually do 4, but sometimes only three days I get in. If I only get three days in for the week I’ll work two muscle groups during the workout. Last night I did arms and shoulders. Curls, preacher curls, triceps rope pulldowns, push downs, some dumbbell tricep reps, and skull crushers, I think they’re called. Also did some dumbbell reps for shoulders, not even sure what they’re called. And some shrugs. Trying to get about 20 reps of curls in, rotate to shoulders, back to arms on triceps for about 10 rope pull downs,back to shrugs, over to preacher curls, and just back and forth on all this. tonight I’ll do legs and chest maybe. Leg presses, squats, bench press, dumbbell butterflies on bench. Some cable pulls for chest, and some other stuff for legs, and get some ab crunches in on whatever this cool machine is, for abs and muscles  around the abdomen. I believe I should be eating around 225 gms protein a day, and I’m not getting that yet, until I start supplementing with protein mix. I’d like to be eating around 4000 calories a day as well. I definately need this to be structured better so I’ll work on that. Thanks to siegmund too, I appreciate it very much. One important question, is mass gainer good to supplement with? Shake mix packed full of shit, protein, and calories?

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Mass gainers certainly have

Mass gainers certainly have their place. Just be sure to get the good stuff. Personally, i make my own from pure whey isolate that i buy in bulk, no added bullshit, pure glucose powder, and baby oats. Works great and doesnt cost that much and doesnt have any of tje unnecessary crap in it. I drink one in the morning and one at 7 pm.

It takes time to dial in these important aspects, but you are on the right path :)

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Thanks, that’s probably what

Thanks, that’s probably what I’ll do then, I make these high calorie shakes in the morning already, ill just buy a good protein isolate and add some other good stuff to it, and have one in the evening as well. Thought about adding sweet potatoes or yams. Bout to go hit the gym and tear the hell out of my legs again.

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NATO217 wrote:

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Hey guys, I’m new to the site and have recently kind of discovered working out as a hobby. I have a couple buddy’s who regularly go the gym, as we have free access through place of employment to a top notch full gym. I’m 32 yrs old, 6ft, and 150lbs, and always been somewhat skinny. I am definitely active at work as a millwright, climbind around on and handling big shit. I began changing my diet to be more balanced with more Whole Foods, Greek yougurt, peanut butter, alot of fish and rice, eggs and chicken, and oatmeal, whole milk. I know I’ve got to dial it all in and and get better with how I’m eating, what I’m eating and the right times to eat it all, and possible add some protein mix shakes to help supplement. I’ve began exploring the possibility, and would like to try a test e cycle in the near future. Not sure if this is the right forum to explain all this , and if not apologize. As a starter was going to go with 500mg of test e a week, 250mg on Sunday and 250mg on wed. Then I thought maybe I should start at 400 a week istead of 500. I’d like to go for 10 weeks and of course have pct ready beforehand, Arimidex and clomid and such. Also will do more more research on pct to make sure I have what I need and right dosages, and whether to take Arimidex during the cycle or not. I’ve done alot of studying and still have a lot more to do. I would of course have my bloodwork done beforehand, during and after the cycle. At 150lbs, I’d love to be at 170 or 175. I’ve always been able to throw down the food, but am eating extra meals now with a lot of milk and protein and chicken with brown rice. Gym routine is getting better as I’ve done some studying and listen to buddies at the gym, doing different muscle groups allowing for recovery and such. Working 10 hr days 5 days a week and going to the gym every day is a task, but I’m getting to the gym 4 days a week now and plan to do more soon.  Hope this is not all a bad idea and if it is, by all means, Im all ears. Thanks in advice for any advice

MillWright huh! My entire family from the south are and has been in the MillWright they're entire life. I choose a different path. This your 1st go around with aas?

 

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yep, millwright, and a damn

yep, millwright, and a damn good one too. Earned through blood, sweat, and tears. Done a lot of stupid shit too though. Yes, this would be my first round of aas, down the road and when I’m ready though. Nice to meet you, being in the millwright trade is a great thing, always workin on something different. 1000hp motor one day, hangin in a bosun chair 100 ft up another day, watching dial indicators on a shaft the next day, all kinds of shit to do. 

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Nary a dull moment, sounds

Nary a dull moment, sounds good to me. Im an electrician, and in general, i dig the routine of doing the rough. Gets interesting when i get into custom shit, like motion sensor doors in a high end residential condo, or whacky steam punk exposed pipe and light fixtures. The job im doing has NO PLANS for electrical, so i doubled as a designer too, pretty cool, tho stressful when theres ridiculous deadlines that im expected to meet...yesterday!

Dont know what a millwright does exactly, except maybe work in some sort of mill... grain? Wood? Metal? Hell i dont know :-P

 

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Hell, I’m not even sure of

Hell, I’m not even sure of the proper definition of a millwright. A millwright is basically supposed to be an industrial ”jack of all trades”. Industrial mechanics and maintenance mainly, but a journeyman millwright should be skilled and qualified in electrical, pipefitting, code welding, industrial machinery maintenance and installation, electric motor  gearbox/pump alignment. All kinds of stuff. I’m no journeyman, and have minimal skill in electrical. Not a code welder either. Just somewhat good with machinery mechanics, alignment , and a lot of internal tank work. Spent my entire working life in a dam factory.  Millwrights work in coal power plants, nuclear plants, grain and ag process plants, water treatment plants, cogeneration plants and just any kind of “plant”. Maybe one day I’ll get an office job, in the air all day and not in a hot ass plant doing all kinds of crazy, stupid shit :/

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Well glad to have you

Well glad to have you Millwright :-)

Just to take a counterpoint, start straight test when your ready. Plan for a three month cycle. Take at least 4 months off. Then for second nothing wrong with stacking - don't be afraid of it! But study study study so you know what your stacking together.

Its fun bro.   Lets be honest. Nothing like the jump in energy and strength that we get from a good load of Test.   :-)   Been too long!

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Thanks man, I appreciate it

Question: does test e 250 have a shelf life. Let’s just say, if I wait a few months, to a year, will the vial still be good? 250mg/ml, grapeseed oil suspension. Kept at room temp

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One other thing, it is a good

One other thing, it is a good idea to go get your bloodwork done. Free and total test, estradiol, liver, lipids, etc. Its always good to know where everything is at, correct things you can, and know what your baseline test/e2 are at. I use privatemdlabs.com 

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Thanks blast, are all the

Thanks blast, are all the companies that do at home tests legit? Are some scams, or do they report?  Also, got a buddy who went to some low Income type of clinic and had bloodwork done, said he wanted to see testosterone levels and did end up getting the labs done. It was revealed that his testosterone was well over 3000. The doc said “Look man, your test levels are very high, what are you taking.” Buddy said, “ steroids”, and that was it I guess. Cost a great deal of money tho to have it done 

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We need one of our suppliers

We need one of our suppliers to weigh in about the shelf life. I don't honestly know but I know mine has lasted a LONG time on the shelf and been quite viable. Someone told me once it was good for a couple of years. 

I don't do bloodwork BUT I SHOULD. I need to research the web site Blast uses. if he vouches for it you can trust it.  I advise you to be wiser than me and to get it done, don't want to finally l look like a marvel superhero and die from clogged arteries or butt cancer. 

Be wise as best you can and good luck bro.   Holler anytime. 

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Will do, and I appreciate the

Will do, and I appreciate the advice, I’ll keep in touch